Sunday, November 9, 2008

Time to stop "electors" from picking a person who is not qualified to be chosen.

Lindsey Springer here and I thought I would show an example of how power slowly boils all to accepting dinner is being served and they are the main course. Here is the front page of a news paper in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

WASHINGTON — With only two terms in the U.S. House behind him, Oklahoma Democrat Dan Boren is making preparations to help the new Obama administration fill key federal positions across the state.

The 10th Amendment says "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Do you see what is wrong with this sentence in the News Paper? There are no "federal positions across the state." There are no federal positions "in the State" either. The 10th Amendment forbids such and those seeking these "positions" are bound by the 10th Amendment. If you do not know the difference between the United States and the States, as written in the 10th Amendment, then you have not a single reserved constitutional right. You have removed the word "people" and "State" from the 10th Amendment. If you remove the "people" and the "States" then who in the 10th Amendment, with a name, is left remaining? Yep, the United States. You only have what the United States is allowing you to have. Read the sentence in the News Paper and the 10th Amendment over and over again until you get it.

If any of you would be interested in bringing a civil action in your State regarding the selection and election of a President of the United States of America, please let me know. I believe no less than 50 complaints will do the 10th Amendment justice. Only "electors" actually vote for President and they do that by with slate of persons. In most States, the "electors" are chosen by a popular vote by placing the name of a hopeful from one party or the other on the State election ballot. This ballot should not be confused with the elector ballot. Each hopeful has a list of names he selects to be his "electors" in the event he wins a State popular vote election. Those electors are the true voters in the election and they can be stopped if you decide to stop them in your State. You do not need to overturn the general election but rather only the electors vote and its certification. Let me know. It is time the "people" take control from the licenced attorneys and I cannot think of a better way than to force those attorneys, in each of the 50 States, to come into Court and argue Article II of the Constitution of the United States means nothing. That argument alone will cause ethics complaints against them in effor to revoke their license. Electors will meet in the respective States and vote by ballot. True the Constitution was amended on this subject but hot as to how the President is actually elected. What happened on November 4, 2008, means nothing in the election of a President. It is what happens after that polling that really matters.

I personally have not bias against Obama or McCain, but my bias is whether the person being chosen by "electors" fits the job qualifications all States entered into an agreement to accept in the office of President. These qualifications are not assumed present unless proven not present. It is the other way around. It is assumed you are not qualified unless you prove your existence meets the list in Article II.

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

The "Citizen of the United States" part only applied to those who, at the time of the Constitution, were not born here, but were domiciled in one of the States. Since no person lives past 120 years, 1789's Citizen of the United States no longer has any meaning. The only current option is "Natural Born."

Per the 12th Amendment:

Amendment 12 - Choosing the President, Vice-President. Ratified 6/15/1804. Note History The Electoral College

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

If you wish to stop the attorneys Unconstitutional Attack on your 50 States agreement called the Constitution of the United States, something they had to sware to uphold to even get their license, then join me in letting all political parties, and those attorneys who lied when they took their oath, by taking back each State, and the White House, and Congress.

We will have to work quickly and that can happen. If there is enough people in each State who are willing to stand up for their rights under Article II, as reserved by the 10th Amendment, you will be living back in your State again and showing the rest of the world the truest duty the word "people" have. If you think you are going to do this in your State by yourself you are wrong. If enough interest I will form a meeting to discuss how to implement this strategy.

Thank you for your interest.


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